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Hi. I’m looking for some advice.. My husband...

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25 Aug 2021

Hi. I’m looking for some advice.. My husband and I have recently adopted a 5 month old puppy and we have a 1.5 year old dog as well, and I just want some tips on how I can help both of them acclimate well in this transition period. Our older dog has always been an only dog in our household but is around other dogs constantly and loves them, always wanting to play but lately the seems to be having a hard time adjusting to sharing his space (and toys) with another dog.. I just want to make sure we’re doing the best by both of them. Thank you!
JA: Hi there. I'll do all I can to help. How long has the dog been dealing with this?
Customer: We adopted the puppy on Saturday, so it’s quite recently.
JA: When did the dog last see a vet? Is he taking any medications?
Customer: Our oldest was at the vet a few months ago, and is on trifexis but that is his only medication. The puppy was rescued from the humane society so he has recently been vetted and is all utd as well
JA: What's the dog's name?
Customer: Our older dog is Costa and the new puppy is Atlas.
JA: Is there anything else the Vet should know before I connect you? Rest assured that they'll be able to help you.
Customer: Our older dog has had some stomach issues the last two days but I think it may have been because he got into the puppy’s food two nights ago, and he has a sensitive stomach but I don’t know if that could’ve been brought on from the stress of the new puppy either?
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25 Aug 2021

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25 Aug 2021
Sally G.
Sally G.
Independent Contractor

Hello and welcome. My name is ***** ***** I have been in the dog field for 25 years. I am a Therapy Dog & AKC Evaluator/trainer/ as well as an assistance/service dog trainer, specializing in behavior. It will be my pleasure to help you today. Please understand I can only advise you going by the information you give.

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25 Aug 2021
Customer reply
25 Aug 2021
Hi! Thank you for your time and help, I really appreciate it!
25 Aug 2021
Dog Specialist's response
25 Aug 2021
Sally G.
Sally G.
Independent Contractor

it is likely the puppy food that upset your elder dog's belly.

As for getting them together, it is important to bring them together for some controlled things such as leash walking or during rest periods.

I would have a gated off room for the puppy to go in and when in there give him a mind stimulating toy to occupy the brain. These toys are also great for teaching impulse control. Kong Genius, treat dispensing ball, buster cube are all good for this.

This will also give your elder dog time to rest without the puppy in its face.

Do some clicker training with your pup and try to work in a leave it command daily. This is what you will use if you see the elder dog getting frustrated with the pup. This will tell the pup to leave the elder dog alone and return to you.

As long as you can give the elder dog some times of peace during the day it should be okay.

Start your training in non distracting areas and gradually move to more distracting areas slowly. If at any point you move to a more distracting area and the dog acts out, then you have to go back to the last spot he was listening and train longer there, before moving forward.

Also, always remember as you start moving to more distracting areas, you need to up the ante of reward . So , for non distracting areas you can use soft dog treats broken up to smaller pieces , but when it is more distracting you need to up that reward to chicken or hot dog slivers.

If you have never used a clicker , you have to load it first before you start training. This just means you do 10 to 15 repetitions of clicking and treating so she knows that after the click sound, she is rewarded. The click sound, as you train, is actually a marker that she has done the right thing. The clicker costs about 2 dollars in a pet store.

Zac George -loading the clicker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPDOrEEsAJ8

Clicker training/positive method training/ print off

http://www.clickerlessons.com/

use a variety of items for training leave it so the dog knows it pertains to everything in its sight. Include using a remote control car to represent moving items such as animals or cars

clicker leave it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNAOe1djDyc

clicker maintaining focus http://www.clickertraining.com/files/auto-eye-contact.pdf

25 Aug 2021
Customer reply
25 Aug 2021
Thank you! I’ll definitely start working on clicker training, I’ve never done that before but will implement that ASAP.The two of them sleep in the same room if not very close together, and we’ve been taking them for walks together twice a day since we’ve brought the puppy home. The puppy already has a great recall and he knows “leave it” really well and whenever we say it in relation to leaving our older dog alone, he listens immediately which has been great.
My older dog is also a rescue and typically is not a resource guarder. However, he is very possessive over toys and has a really hard time sharing them. The puppy has no problem sharing but my older one just can’t get it, no matter what I’ve tried. I keep his favorite toys away from the puppy of course but he doesn’t want to let the puppy near the toy basket. If the puppy has a toy, he will try to take it from him and hoard it but if he is corrected to let the puppy have a toy, he refuses to play with any of the toys except the one that puppy has or won’t play with a toy unless the puppy isn’t playing with a toy. He isn’t being being aggressive about it, just possessive and keeps the puppy away from them or refuses to play himself. That’s the biggest problem we’re having right now and I’m not sure how to help.. because the puppy wants to play but my older dog is just ignoring him almost totally at this point.
25 Aug 2021
Dog Specialist's response
25 Aug 2021
Sally G.
Sally G.
Independent Contractor

When they are separate , then they can have toys. At this time the puppy is sharing them which is good. But there may come a time the pup will want to challenge the older dog.

I would put the elder dog on the nothing in life is free program and put all toys away until you decide the dogs can have them.

Do a leave it command with the elder dog when he goes to take a toy from the puppy. This will put you more in control. it is important for you to be seen as the leader in this house.

Nothing in life is free program

https://www.sfspca.org/sites/default/files/dog_commands_nothing-in-life-is-free.pdf

25 Aug 2021
Customer reply
25 Aug 2021
Okay, I will definitely start implementing that program. I've been trying something that seems similar to a few of the steps I read but I will definitely start working on that specially. So use the toys as the reward for doing what is being asked if him?Separate as in different rooms? And take them and put them away from the puppy as well?For the most part of the day, as the puppy has been playing with toys, my older dog has just been laying and watching but still refuses to play with any toys while the puppy does.As I've been messaging with you, my puppy has been playing with toys and my older dog did go and grab a different toy to bring back and play with it himself but has lost interest in it already.. and then he went to lay next to the puppy without trying to take the toy he's playing with and is sleeping next to him while he plays, but should I remove the toys just in case?
25 Aug 2021
Dog Specialist's response
25 Aug 2021
Sally G.
Sally G.
Independent Contractor

Yes, put the dogs in separate rooms. Puppy can have toys, elder dog can have toys , but only after it is done working for you.

When play is over you pick up toys from all and put them away.

Going by what you said below, it sounds like your elder dog may finally be settling in. So if that continues, let it, do not separate unless you need to .

"As I've been messaging with you, my puppy has been playing with toys and my older dog did go and grab a different toy to bring back and play with it himself but has lost interest in it already.. and then he went to lay next to the puppy without trying to take the toy he's playing with and is sleeping next to him while he plays, but should I remove the toys just in case?"

25 Aug 2021
Customer reply
25 Aug 2021
It just seems like my older dog has been acting differently with the puppy around, more somber like for lack of a better word.. they were playing a lot in the last few days so it may be him being tired and not being used to that because he normally is a very high energy dog but I just can't tell if it's the puppy wearing him out or him being unhappy about the new addition. He is usually very dog obsessive and loves to play but he's been guarding toys like he's never done before but the puppy is the first dog he is around that also plays with toys
25 Aug 2021
Dog Specialist's response
25 Aug 2021
Sally G.
Sally G.
Independent Contractor

Give it some more time. Your elder dog is finding the best scenario for him. This may all change again as the puppy grows to adolescence.

25 Aug 2021
Customer reply
25 Aug 2021
He is going through phases where he allows the puppy to play and get toys out of the basket and then he doesn't.
25 Aug 2021
Dog Specialist's response
25 Aug 2021
Sally G.
Sally G.
Independent Contractor

From a behavior standpoint ,that's okay, he too is finding a new way.

25 Aug 2021
Customer reply
25 Aug 2021
Okay. That makes me feel better. I know they both need time but I just want to make sure this is something I can work on with both of them and help them. I want them to get along like they did before toys came into the picture and of course for both of them to be happy and comfortable. They play together great without toys when my older dogs gets over being corrected for something.
25 Aug 2021
Customer reply
25 Aug 2021
Another thing, the puppy tries to hump my older dog when they play, I figure it's an overstimulation thing but my older dog doesn't correct him to make him stop. How do I get him to quit doing it? I tell him "off/leave it" and he stops for that moment but how do I help him to stop doing it all together?
25 Aug 2021
Dog Specialist's response
25 Aug 2021
Sally G.
Sally G.
Independent Contractor

Sometimes you just have to remove items from two kids that can't share, then bring them out at a later time to try again:)

My golden is ball obsessive. He will not play with my other dogs if balls are around, when I take them away for a while, he grabs a toy and starts a tug game.

They are like kids in many ways:)

25 Aug 2021
Customer reply
25 Aug 2021
That makes a lot of sense. I will start working on all this immediately. I just want him to be able to play with toys with the puppy as well.
I am hopeful he'll learn quickly to share. Because he can play with him and share plenty of other things with the puppy but toys have been a dealbreaker so far
25 Aug 2021
Dog Specialist's response
25 Aug 2021
Sally G.
Sally G.
Independent Contractor

Keep working on it. It will eventually come together.

25 Aug 2021
Customer reply
26 Aug 2021
Thank you for taking the time and sharing those tips. I'll definitely start working on it ASAP!With the humping, is there anything we can do to get him to stop doing it all together? Or is it something my older dog will need to eventually correct for him to stop?
26 Aug 2021
Dog Specialist's response
26 Aug 2021
Sally G.
Sally G.
Independent Contractor

That is a sign of trying to be dominant so you will have to give your leave it command anytime you see it happening

26 Aug 2021
Customer reply
26 Aug 2021
Okay. I'll keep working on it then. He does listen really quickly when we tell him to leave it when he does it. It's not as often anymore and it's almost like he stops before even really starting to because he knows we'll tell him to quit it.
26 Aug 2021
Dog Specialist's response
26 Aug 2021
Sally G.
Sally G.
Independent Contractor

That's great actually!

26 Aug 2021
Customer reply
26 Aug 2021
He's a quick learner for sure! He's been great so far and he hasn't even been home with us for a week yet!Also our older dog is making huge progress today with sharing toys! We started doing the steps in the program yesterday and earlier they both had toys and my older dog was fine with it! He even started playing with the puppy with the toy, sharing it with him and letting him catch it when my husband threw it. I know we still have to continue working but he's already making progress and I'm thrilled about it! Thank you so much for all your help thus far!
26 Aug 2021
Dog Specialist's response
26 Aug 2021
Sally G.
Sally G.

Fantastic steps being made for sure!

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